Do most girls like "handsome" guys?

[warbird]

Good morning,

I posted the following for my thread "Picking Up KTV gals Outside KTVs" a long time ago. I'm quoting it here because 99.9% of men are still clueless.

"Last wk, I received an email from a seduction/sex guru. I like to share it w/ all samsters who r not handsome in the traditional sense. It should apply to both non-WLs n Wls.

How To Outperform "Pretty Boys" With Women (And You Will)

Think that the "GQ model" type of guys who tend to
catch women's eye naturally have a better dating life than you ever
will?

Not necessarily...by a long shot. Here's the fascinating reason why
you CAN and SHOULD do better with women than they can.

Looks may in fact "matter", but NOT in the way you might think. At
the very least, not in the SAME WAY that how a woman looks matters
to guys.

Here's how it all works.

First, let's look at the "average" guy.

And for the record, by "average" I mean ANY guy who doesn't see
himself as being particularly good looking. My firmly held belief
is that ALL of us can be at least an "average guy" by simply caring
enough to have self-respect.

So please don't e-mail me moaning about how you're probably "below
average", and how what I'm about to say therefore still won't help
you. It's the whining about that itself that actually spells out
"below average"...believe me.

Anyway...

Since "Mr. Average" is not particularly good looking, he may think
that he has less of a chance with a beautiful woman.

This is predicated on logic, of course. Deep down, we all tend to
feel like we should get what we think we deserve.

So "Mr. Average" sees "Mr. GQ" with a beautiful woman, and despairs.

But then again, it always seems like the NEXT beautiful woman he
sees is with a guy whom he might think doesn't deserve her as much
as HE does. And that frustrates him.

Despair alternating with frustration. Why? Because he's assuming
the women he sees must make dating and relationship decisions the
way WE do as men.

So he sees "Mr. GQ" as deserving, and any less handsome man with a
pretty woman as simply "lucky" or something. And he resents BOTH
guys.

As a result, HIS PROBLEM is that he can't get up the nerve to ASK A
WOMAN OUT ON A FIRST DATE.

But if he could just muster a bit of confidence, he may find that
his masculinity, ability to put a woman at ease in his presence and
his solid character could actually make women go crazy for him
after they meet him.

In fact, a BIG part of his frustration may even lie in knowing that
if he could just get a woman on a first date, she'd LOVE HIM.

Have you ever caught yourself thinking that? I know I have.

Meanwhile, let's consider "Mr. GQ".

Women naturally smile at him when they see him. They may even
flirt a little more noticeably.

Heck, women may APPROACH HIM.

He might even have women throwing slips of paper with their phone
number on it at him.

As such, he likely has NO PROBLEM getting first dates.

But when you get right down to it, a first date does NOT equal
"success with women".

And if you're among the legion of "Mr. Average" guys out there, you
might not ever see the part that comes next. You may not even ever
consider the POSSIBILITY of it, frankly.

Here it is, though: I've lost count of the number of "handsome"
guys who can get a first date with ANY woman, but who can't get a
SECOND DATE to save their lives.

Why not?

Usually it's one of three reasons:


1) Women, as I've mentioned before, ultimately can't stand to be
"upstaged" in the looks department. Insecurity and jealousy cause
them to run away.


2) The guy falls for his own shortsighted belief that women make
dating decisions the same way men do, and therefore develops an
arrogant attitude based on his looks. Women like good-looking
guys, but they can't stand arrogant ones. Mark that.


3) It turns out the guy is either BORING or a flat-out WUSS behind
that "pretty boy" façade. Game over.



Isn't the "big picture" here a little bit crazy?

"Mr. Average" doesn't get a FIRST DATE...mostly due to having psyched
himself out with negative "self-talk".

"Mr. GQ" can't get a SECOND DATE...for one (or all) of the reasons
listed above.

In the end BOTH GUYS FAIL with women.

And the most breathtaking part of this whole scenario? Both guys
actually have the SAME PROBLEM.

NEITHER guy has the ability to CHOOSE the women they really want.

Whether that means "short term fling" or "long term relationship"
is irrelevant. If ANY GUY fails to create DEEP ATTRACTION in a
woman, he's getting nowhere with her.

And remember, this is REGARDLESS OF LOOKS.

What's the net/net of all this?

It's simple. Good looks may help a guy catch a woman's eye up
front, but really only "matter" as it pertains to HOW and WHEN
success or failure with women presents itself.

And yes...an "average" guy may need to take a more objective approach
to getting a woman's attention initially.

But ultimately, ONLY the "Big Four" matter when it comes to truly
ATTRACTING her...on YOUR TERMS and for as long as you'd like her to
be in your life.

And the bottom line is that ONLY guys who are in CONTROL of their
dating lives can expect to have success with women.

In the example given above, neither "Mr. Average" nor "Mr. GQ" has
CONTROL over his dating life.

They don't hold the cards when it comes to deciding which women
they want to keep around for any length of time.

So if you think about it, whether a guy feels like he has a hard
time GETTING a woman's attention or KEEPING it, the problem is
still pretty much the same thing in the end: He doesn't have the
women in his life that he wants.

And by the way, if you think that the good looking guy may still
have one-up over "average" guys because he can get the "quick lay"
out of the transaction before he ultimately blows it, guess again.

As I've shown you before in the past, high quality women DO NOT
make decisions regarding who to sleep with the same way guys do.

Without "Big Four" substance, ANY guy can forgettaboutit.

But WITH the "Big Four" in full effect, you essentially weed out
just about ALL of your "competition" in today's modern, neutered
world replete with confused men...good-looking and otherwise.

I can hear someone asking, "Yeah, but what about women who AREN'T
high quality?"

What about 'em?

If a woman has low self-esteem and the lower standards that go with
it, the irony is that a more "average" guy may have a better
chance, as it were, even with her.

I personally thank my lucky stars that I DON'T have "model looks",
but that I know what the "Big Four" are and recognize their
importance. My dating life has been way less complicated that
way...and far more successful

How about you? Can you adopt that mindset and take full advantage
of the power it holds?

Be Good,

Mr. XYZ

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BTW, the "Big Four" factors refer to the traits of a real MAN which attract women. They r: Masculinity, Confidence, Inspiring confidence n Character.

Still want to look like Mr. GQ?

I rather be a lao chi ko pek w/ the "Big Four" n dominant self mastery/self control n lots of moolah, hehehe.

Any comments n criticisms?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[VirgilvanDijk4]

Thanks for the info and sharing . Learn something new today .

[1qaz1qaz]

Thanks for sharing

[JOGK]

if you mean one night stand ...YES

if you mean relationship...NO

tbh gals from my experience..do not necessary want handsome guys

They will submit if their bfs gives them enough warmth and love

They just take handsome as a bonus but not necessary

[Aware66]

Originally Posted by JOGK

if you mean one night stand ...YES

if you mean relationship...NO

tbh gals from my experience..do not necessary want handsome guys

They will submit if their bfs gives them enough warmth and love

They just take handsome as a bonus but not necessary

And don't forget those who are there for personal benefit such as business deals or career advancement. Yes, it's a complicated world out there and we just need to go with our eyes wide open.

[AntheaA]

I’m a female and tbh too pretty a face turns me off. From my experience, these men (or boys?) are full of themselves, taking much more selfies than I do, and think they can get their ways just because of how they look. WRONG. Personally I feel that what the man does speaks much louder than what he says and how he looks. He does not have to be “pretty” or “handsome”. He just have to be a man of his words, not lazy, pleasant looking(well-groomed & gd personal hygiene), and kind. Humor works wonders too!

[warbird]

Good afternoon,

This thread caught my attention because of the word HANDSOME. It refers to HANDSOME guys here.

Coincidentally, I had a recent post that focuses on this magic word in my thread How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type.

I know there are many naysayers and non-believers out there, including my former self.

I'm willing to debate anyone on this fascinating topic.

Here is my recent post:

Good evening,

The pussy market in SG is deplorable. It's getting from bad to worse.

If you pay peanuts, you get plastic aunties. If you pay millions, you still get plastic aunties.

I have friends and bros who had paid millions to keep singers n they all got cheated and dumped in the end. Their singers were no Xi Shi. In fact, they were mostly plastic aunties. Isn't that depressing?

IMHO, 99.9999% of men are completely clueless about girls/women. They think because they are too fat, too thin, too tall, too short, too young or too old, or for whatever reason, they are NOT good enough for their dream girls. Their negative mental frame guarantees that their 'girls' (actually plastic aunties in most cases) will find them repulsive. They could get their pussies by paying and paying, but they would never capture their hearts.

OMG, who wants to capture the heart of a plastic auntie?

I now like to share a secret. I knew a long time ago that beautiful girls are NOT attracted to a man's looks, despite popular belief. But this one is quite different.

One of life's great secrets, according to Tucker Max.







I can confirm that Tucker Max is absolutely correct, although I never thought much about it, after analyzing my personal experiences over many decades.

Many girls, some of them quite pretty, had offered themselves to me for BY. I was pleasantly surprised because they were friends or guimi of my LPs. Some were very persistent. My LPs must have said great things about me.

Once I met a pretty 20 yo girl from Jiangsu at Las Vegas, 5th fl TAM in 2013. I asked for ST, she said no way. Then I asked if she would consider BY, and she said no. After 30-40 minutes, I casually mentioned that I had two mistresses, one in SG and one in Fujian waiting for a visa to come. She suddenly changed her attitude. She asked about their monthly allowances. Actually quite modest, but I told her. She then asked if I would consider taking her as my 3rd mistress. Well, I ended up doing ST on her. She returned to China before the expiration of her tourist visa. I didn't keep her because having 3 LPs in SG would be a bit too taxing.

Women definitely like men who are desired by other women. It's a form of social proof.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[LinQingXia]

Human beings are all attracted to good looking things!

[Rickey]

Originally Posted by AntheaA

I’m a female and tbh too pretty a face turns me off. From my experience, these men (or boys?) are full of themselves, taking much more selfies than I do, and think they can get their ways just because of how they look. WRONG. Personally I feel that what the man does speaks much louder than what he says and how he looks. He does not have to be “pretty” or “handsome”. He just have to be a man of his words, not lazy, pleasant looking(well-groomed & gd personal hygiene), and kind. Humor works wonders too!

Not v true...I am all that u said...how come nobody wants me ??? ...sigh...they go for the muscular ones, the hunk with 6 packs with lots of money to spend on them etc, etc

but u n esp bro warbird may be right...but then how to get yr 1st beautiful girl in the 1st place ??

[Rickey]

Originally Posted by LinQingXia

Human beings are all attracted to good looking things!

Yalor...agree totally with auntie Lin QX !

[LouisBoh]

2 persons having sex - 2some
3 persons having sex - 3some
When a lonely guy uses his hand, we call him handsome

[Koei]

Originally Posted by JOGK

if you mean one night stand ...YES

if you mean relationship...NO

tbh gals from my experience..do not necessary want handsome guys

They will submit if their bfs gives them enough warmth and love

They just take handsome as a bonus but not necessary

True, but just to add abit, for ONS even if you are not handsome but can talk well and know how to 'set the stage' for what is to come... also can one . On the other hand, from where I am working right now, some girls who r looking for ONS are even hornier than men

[donut88]

I speak from experience.

Women like men because of:

Sense of security (it doesn't mean lots of money. It means the guy is matured, logical and can make good decisions to problems. Talk sense and not fickle minded. Not childish but have good humour. )

Speaks well


On the point on handsome, its very subjective. Diff gals look for different physical requirements.
So it never mean ugly men have no gals.

[kingslayer882]

Sure being handsome will have an advantage, but I think its the kind of vibes and security you can give the girl.

Girls are more emotional and guys are more visual

[deematter]

not really...i found out most girls especially the younger generation prefers guys which are mature and stable...you can see this as in sugarbook.com which most of the guy is mature in term of their behaviour and financial and many young girls fall in love wit h it