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Old 18-08-2018, 08:17 PM
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Re: Prostate Massage

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Re: Prostate Massage

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Any masseuses give free hj for bros who take the P massage
I have experience of release during P massage because too song already
And i didnt pay her anything
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Old 20-08-2018, 01:14 PM
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Re: Prostate Massage

Things were simpler in the past before these 'premium packages' appeared. But we can't go back to the good old days so we just need to pick our battles- which also depends on what bros are expecting at the end.

We can look at it as 2 ends of a spectrum in terms of total $ paid, with 3 interested parties (brothers, MLs, spa bosses) having different vested $ interests and risks.

Let's denote 'M' for MLs, 'B' for brothers, and 'S' for spa bosses. Just remember MBS.

Assume typical costs with a HJ ending:
1hr massage at $50
1hr P-massage at $88
HJ can range from $0 to infinity but let's use $50 as a typical amount

So at the lowest end of the $ spectrum:
TOTAL DMG $50: B pays $50 and gets a HJ at $0
- M takes on risk but no additional $, though probably B will become a recurring customer
- S earns the bare minimum
- B should be most satisfied with this scenario, but this usually does not happen...

Whereas at the highest end of the $ spectrum:
TOTAL DMG $138: B pays $88 for P-massage and $50 for HJ
- M and S are more incentivized for this. S takes a larger cut of $88 while M gets an increased share of the entrance on top of $50 tip
- Highest cash outlay for B so only for rich or 'carrot' Bs

Intermediate scenarios:
TOTAL DMG $100: B pays $50 for massage and $50 for HJ
- S earns the bare minimum, would want to avoid this between B and M. Ways include patrolling and allocation of more 'open' rooms etc
- M might be willing to risk this if B insists on not having P-massage, since $50 is significant compared to a cut of the entrance
- Many Bs are ok with this probably

TOTAL DMG $108-128: B pays $88 for P-massage and $20-40 for HJ
- S is fine so long as Bs go for $88 P-massage, whatever else is arrangements between M and B
- M gets lesser tips so it's dependent on negotiations between B and M
- B is a lesser carrot than $138 outlay but still >$100

TOTAL DMG $88: B pays $88 for P-massage and gets a HJ at $0
- S is fine as above
- M gets no additional tips, just increased cut of entrance, usually won't be incentivized to offer this.
- Bs would be happy with this since a total outlay of $88 is lower than the typical $100 expected without taking up p-massage, unless Bs manage to negotiate <$50 for HJ

And of course there are other permutations not captured in the above, e.g. roaming limits/ GFE/ massage skills/ teasing etc which certainly play a role in justifying the total outlay eventually.

YMMV,
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Old 20-08-2018, 02:04 PM
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Re: Prostate Massage

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I have experience of release during P massage because too song already
And i didnt pay her anything
Do P massage include releasing?
I actually paid for releasing! 😖
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Re: Prostate Massage

The first time I try $88 p message include hj without pay extra then I thought P Massage price include releasing. The second time I go the same place Massage by other girl but just normal p massage. I think heng suay also.
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Do P massage include releasing?
I actually paid for releasing! 😖
p msg is p msg, nothing more.....any additional svc depends on how close ml and you...some might throw in free but honestly most will charge..
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Re: Prostate Massage

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Do P massage include releasing?
I actually paid for releasing! 😖
Yes, P massage does literally include releasing but for a fee, such fee varies from MLs to MLs.

For your case, i guess u pay 88 plus 50 for releasing.

Some MLs' package is 88 plus 20~30 for releasing.

Some MLs ' package is 88 plus free releasing.

I hv been thru all the abv mentioned packages.

So u see at times it's possible to get P massage wif free releasing, unfortunately MLs offering P massage wif free releasing usually dun stay long one, dunno why? ..
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Re: Prostate Massage

Miss those good old days of health Centre. Pay cover charges go in relax, eat. Then song song liao massage and take on special

Nowadays so expensive and so rush!
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Re: Prostate Massage

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Miss those good old days of health Centre. Pay cover charges go in relax, eat. Then song song liao massage and take on special

Nowadays so expensive and so rush!
Got to cross river to have this good old days feeling.....
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Re: Prostate Massage

P kee lan la... just pull her hands subtly to rubba it.. IF she gives in, infuture can keep as regular. If she backs away and insist pay extra for P msg, then just ownself wank under the underwear and make it the 1st n lust time visiting her lor.. simple
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Re: Prostate Massage

Used to get free HJ from one masseur last time when I opted for P massage. Twice in total. But she got fired by her boss and left the country already. No auto roam for the first time. But second time roam everywhere for free. Pretty good C rack. Too bad can not suck. She didn't even ask me GQ. Straight away did HJ after I turned to my back.
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Re: Prostate Massage

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Originally Posted by peksync View Post
Things were simpler in the past before these 'premium packages' appeared. But we can't go back to the good old days so we just need to pick our battles- which also depends on what bros are expecting at the end.

We can look at it as 2 ends of a spectrum in terms of total $ paid, with 3 interested parties (brothers, MLs, spa bosses) having different vested $ interests and risks.

Let's denote 'M' for MLs, 'B' for brothers, and 'S' for spa bosses. Just remember MBS.

Assume typical costs with a HJ ending:
1hr massage at $50
1hr P-massage at $88
HJ can range from $0 to infinity but let's use $50 as a typical amount

So at the lowest end of the $ spectrum:
TOTAL DMG $50: B pays $50 and gets a HJ at $0
- M takes on risk but no additional $, though probably B will become a recurring customer
- S earns the bare minimum
- B should be most satisfied with this scenario, but this usually does not happen...

Whereas at the highest end of the $ spectrum:
TOTAL DMG $138: B pays $88 for P-massage and $50 for HJ
- M and S are more incentivized for this. S takes a larger cut of $88 while M gets an increased share of the entrance on top of $50 tip
- Highest cash outlay for B so only for rich or 'carrot' Bs

Intermediate scenarios:
TOTAL DMG $100: B pays $50 for massage and $50 for HJ
- S earns the bare minimum, would want to avoid this between B and M. Ways include patrolling and allocation of more 'open' rooms etc
- M might be willing to risk this if B insists on not having P-massage, since $50 is significant compared to a cut of the entrance
- Many Bs are ok with this probably

TOTAL DMG $108-128: B pays $88 for P-massage and $20-40 for HJ
- S is fine so long as Bs go for $88 P-massage, whatever else is arrangements between M and B
- M gets lesser tips so it's dependent on negotiations between B and M
- B is a lesser carrot than $138 outlay but still >$100

TOTAL DMG $88: B pays $88 for P-massage and gets a HJ at $0
- S is fine as above
- M gets no additional tips, just increased cut of entrance, usually won't be incentivized to offer this.
- Bs would be happy with this since a total outlay of $88 is lower than the typical $100 expected without taking up p-massage, unless Bs manage to negotiate <$50 for HJ

And of course there are other permutations not captured in the above, e.g. roaming limits/ GFE/ massage skills/ teasing etc which certainly play a role in justifying the total outlay eventually.

YMMV,
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very detailed analysis.! welldone bro. long gone the old happy times.
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