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Old 15-04-2021, 05:24 AM
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Questionable thoughts on current generation on BG relationship.....

Currently I'm single, 28. Do not have a gf at all ever in my life.

I've been pondering on this issue.....

1. Let's say now I'm intend to date a few girls as friends first,

Either one of them once I feel it's a good get along, we will get closer as the day goes....
however I was thinking how long will you guys wait for the girl to remove the friendzone afterwards,
to clarify "what are we now" and officially treat you as the bf before moving on to find another girl?
Asking this because just in case, I got played out by girls who don't give direct answers, expecting me to read mixed signals and play mind games in the future..
Is it worth pursuing ? (e.g. wait for 6 months or 1 year or even longer?)

2. I have did some research on sexless relationships (pre-marriage)

Do they really exist till this day? (e.g. together for 3-10 years all the way no sex at all that kind ?????)
with the fact not limiting to any religious reasons.....

If they do exist, how do the couples survive? Can't be as a male visiting FL/WL for his whole life??
Like that it defeats the purpose of having BG relationship in the first place? Or am I too much to be expecting sex is a must in a relationship before marriage?
Coz I've been reading stuffs like if a guy cannot find gf, let the girl initiate the first move and find me, where I totally can't picture that scenario, where I always believe guy should make the first move..

Is there any guys in here having a sexless relationship etc can share your experience ? What are your take bros ?
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Old 15-04-2021, 05:58 AM
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Re: Questionable thoughts on current generation on BG relationship.....

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Currently I'm single, 28. Do not have a gf at all ever in my life.

I've been pondering on this issue.....

1. Let's say now I'm intend to date a few girls as friends first,

Either one of them once I feel it's a good get along, we will get closer as the day goes....
however I was thinking how long will you guys wait for the girl to remove the friendzone afterwards,
to clarify "what are we now" and officially treat you as the bf before moving on to find another girl?
Asking this because just in case, I got played out by girls who don't give direct answers, expecting me to read mixed signals and play mind games in the future..
Is it worth pursuing ? (e.g. wait for 6 months or 1 year or even longer?)

2. I have did some research on sexless relationships (pre-marriage)

Do they really exist till this day? (e.g. together for 3-10 years all the way no sex at all that kind ?????)
with the fact not limiting to any religious reasons.....

If they do exist, how do the couples survive? Can't be as a male visiting FL/WL for his whole life??
Like that it defeats the purpose of having BG relationship in the first place? Or am I too much to be expecting sex is a must in a relationship before marriage?
Coz I've been reading stuffs like if a guy cannot find gf, let the girl initiate the first move and find me, where I totally can't picture that scenario, where I always believe guy should make the first move..

Is there any guys in here having a sexless relationship etc can share your experience ? What are your take bros ?
First point...
If you want to succeed then you should ask people who have succeeded...most guys here are either incels ie cant get a fuck unless paid, guys living in a sexless marriage and go whoring, guys who have given up on finding a relationship, or guys who are sex addicts in or out of a relationship.
If you are looking for a genuine traditional relationship then you are asking the wrong people.
Second point..
Once you are in the friendzone, YOU STAY in there, sure you might get a pity fuck, ie when she low point she might look at you for a pity fuck since you stay here friends for so long but as soon as she finds her type she will dump you. Women decide within 5 mins of meeting you if you are a guy she willing to fuck, the rest of the time is spent finding ways to disqualify you. In fact guys who do as you suggest ie date as friends with intent to become her lover, girls find that despicable as you are duplicitous, say wanna be friends but wanna fuck her... its weak and pathetic as a man to try and get sex/relationship this way. In nature sex is obtained either by strength ( fight other males to win the right to fuck) or by stealth using trickery or opportunistic ways to steal a fuck.

third point...most decent men ie physically attractive with good qualities get girls friends by their early 20s. I had low self esteem but even i was approached by a girl who was 24yrs when i was 20, letting me know she was interested in me. So maybe you should look at why at 28 yrs old you still haven't had a girl friend and improve yourself, as the goal, rather than waste your energy chasing women and dating when you are so flawed. As you are not in a position to keep a girl interested anyway if you are this flawed and all you will do is suffer disappointments and failures being friend zoned.
Your scenario of letting the girl make the move is only effective if YOU are the PRIZE, ie handsome, rich tall athletic, if you make moves girls will think you just another player, instead you should act disinterested and so girl will show interest why this guy not make moves on me. But if you are a beta cuck, with low manly qualities, thinking you can be passive and girl will approach you...you can dream on
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Old 15-04-2021, 07:38 AM
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Re: Questionable thoughts on current generation on BG relationship.....

My questions to you:

What is your PRIMARY objective getting a GF for?

Sex?
Companionship?
Marriage + children?

If it's the 1st. Your resources are in this forum
2nd, most of them you will be doing THEIR activities. Instead of mainly yours. Esp if both have very different lifestyle.
3rd, I do not recommend for Local Chinese. Can't comment on Malays, Indians, Eurasians, Whites, etc.

Also, unless you least earning 3K after CPF (Hopefully earnings will increase with time). Just forget about it. Cost of raising a child is just too much in SG.


Local girls are ok for dating casually. If you are willing to put up with their BS. It will get OLD after awhile.

Usually, men don't get "friendzoned" 1st then become BGR. If a woman is interested in you. They will let you know almost immediately, esp Malay chicks. DO NOT BE A BETA ORBITOR. If a couple is in "relationshit" for months and years without sex. Pretty sure, the woman is getting sex else where. Unless your woman is fugly af.

Don't become a simp. If a woman is not willing to put out (sex) by 3-4 dates with clear signals on your side. Find somebody else. I know people always want what they can't have. But it's a futile attempt keep pursuing.
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Old 15-04-2021, 10:53 AM
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Re: Questionable thoughts on current generation on BG relationship.....

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Originally Posted by xylphz View Post
Currently I'm single, 28. Do not have a gf at all ever in my life.

I've been pondering on this issue.....

1. Let's say now I'm intend to date a few girls as friends first,

Either one of them once I feel it's a good get along, we will get closer as the day goes....
however I was thinking how long will you guys wait for the girl to remove the friendzone afterwards,
to clarify "what are we now" and officially treat you as the bf before moving on to find another girl?
Asking this because just in case, I got played out by girls who don't give direct answers, expecting me to read mixed signals and play mind games in the future..
Is it worth pursuing ? (e.g. wait for 6 months or 1 year or even longer?)

2. I have did some research on sexless relationships (pre-marriage)

Do they really exist till this day? (e.g. together for 3-10 years all the way no sex at all that kind ?????)
with the fact not limiting to any religious reasons.....

If they do exist, how do the couples survive? Can't be as a male visiting FL/WL for his whole life??
Like that it defeats the purpose of having BG relationship in the first place? Or am I too much to be expecting sex is a must in a relationship before marriage?
Coz I've been reading stuffs like if a guy cannot find gf, let the girl initiate the first move and find me, where I totally can't picture that scenario, where I always believe guy should make the first move..

Is there any guys in here having a sexless relationship etc can share your experience ? What are your take bros ?
1. not worth spending too much time chasing 1 girl. 6mths? 1 year? dont wait. you would have fucked more girls by then. Give up on the girl? You can choose to or not to. The thing is, why is your thinking about "a guy can only focus on 1 girl at a time"??? i say you should at least "multi task" till you get a gf.

2. sexless relationships? Yes they exist. But not everyone can take it.
For me, its a NO. no sex then bye bye. even sex not good also i'll say bye bye
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Old 19-04-2021, 07:08 AM
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Re: Questionable thoughts on current generation on BG relationship.....

thank you for the appreciative and constructive feedback,
i went to research terms like beta orbiters and incels,
damn i feel personally attack by the definition.
but I got myself the wake up call.
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Old 19-04-2021, 06:11 PM
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Bro .....
seriously i think you are over analysing .....
get a gf first and let nature take its course .

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Originally Posted by xylphz View Post
Currently I'm single, 28. Do not have a gf at all ever in my life.

I've been pondering on this issue.....

1. Let's say now I'm intend to date a few girls as friends first,

Either one of them once I feel it's a good get along, we will get closer as the day goes....
however I was thinking how long will you guys wait for the girl to remove the friendzone afterwards,
to clarify "what are we now" and officially treat you as the bf before moving on to find another girl?
Asking this because just in case, I got played out by girls who don't give direct answers, expecting me to read mixed signals and play mind games in the future..
Is it worth pursuing ? (e.g. wait for 6 months or 1 year or even longer?)

2. I have did some research on sexless relationships (pre-marriage)

Do they really exist till this day? (e.g. together for 3-10 years all the way no sex at all that kind ?????)
with the fact not limiting to any religious reasons.....

If they do exist, how do the couples survive? Can't be as a male visiting FL/WL for his whole life??
Like that it defeats the purpose of having BG relationship in the first place? Or am I too much to be expecting sex is a must in a relationship before marriage?
Coz I've been reading stuffs like if a guy cannot find gf, let the girl initiate the first move and find me, where I totally can't picture that scenario, where I always believe guy should make the first move..

Is there any guys in here having a sexless relationship etc can share your experience ? What are your take bros ?
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Old 25-04-2021, 04:09 PM
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Re: Questionable thoughts on current generation on BG relationship.....

Whatever is it....get a girlfriend first....rest can discuss...planning without doing it is the same as no action....
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