New to playing MP.. need some help bros

[toukin]

Hello old birds.. I'm new to the MP scene and I would like some help.

I guess it is the fact that I can get an actual massage before any action that makes this form of cheonging so enticing.

The problem is, there are hundreds of "spas" around and countless FL ML around that it's very difficult to navigate these rough seas. I tried a ML from sgl*****guy site. The massage was decent to be honest, but the person giving it was a far cry from her pictures.

I then went to Bl**s along Geylang only to realise that I kena chopped. Albeit, the ML was pretty and the massage was not too bad.

This site is a trove of information but it's very daunting to go through hundreds of pages to gather information.

So I guess I'm looking for a TLDR version of places to go, what I should avoid. and also MLs who have a balance of looks and massage skills.

Thanks in advance.

[timeliness]

Bro you might want to further what kind of service you're looking for, since there's different levels of enjoyment in this scene. I used to visit condo MLs too, but the massage felt too superficial and to some extent, some were as good as playing piano.

For a start, some might say happy = hj, very happy = bbbj/bj, super happy = fj.

But of course, the usual ymmv applies since not every ML provides full suite of services.

[Fappyhands]

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[toukin]

Originally Posted by timeliness

Bro you might want to further what kind of service you're looking for, since there's different levels of enjoyment in this scene. I used to visit condo MLs too, but the massage felt too superficial and to some extent, some were as good as playing piano.

For a start, some might say happy = hj, very happy = bbbj/bj, super happy = fj.

But of course, the usual ymmv applies since not every ML provides full suite of services.

I'm generally fine with happy if there's autoroam. Very happy also can but not a must..

Condo MLs feel less commercial but the land mine hit rate is understandably high.

[timeliness]

Originally Posted by toukin

I'm generally fine with happy if there's autoroam. Very happy also can but not a must..

Condo MLs feel less commercial but the land mine hit rate is understandably high.

And then for roaming there's different tiers depending on whether can roam inside or outside of the clothes, north or south area, etc..

I generally go for MLs with more emphasis of getting a proper massage so usually they only do a happy release.

So in short, you gotta define what kinda services you're looking for then look for the appropriate posts or threads in this. I do share my exploits sometimes in the hc side so you can take a look there too.

[toukin]

Originally Posted by timeliness

And then for roaming there's different tiers depending on whether can roam inside or outside of the clothes, north or south area, etc..

I generally go for MLs with more emphasis of getting a proper massage so usually they only do a happy release.

So in short, you gotta define what kinda services you're looking for then look for the appropriate posts or threads in this. I do share my exploits sometimes in the hc side so you can take a look there too.

I think I'm kinda looking for the same stuff as you..

Could you advice me as to what I'm expected to pay for the different "tiers" of service too? Like the market rate..

[Keima]

Try the advertisers in this HC Dome.

I’ve been an E3 Wellness, Bee Wellness customer for years. all MLs look mostly like their pics, entry in standard.

[timeliness]

Originally Posted by toukin

I think I'm kinda looking for the same stuff as you..

Could you advice me as to what I'm expected to pay for the different "tiers" of service too? Like the market rate..

It really depends I guess. But other bros can feel free to add on or correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy: $50 to $60
Very happy: $80 to $100
Super happy: $120 to $150? (Not very sure about this as I rarely try this tier)

Please don't zap me if my info isn't correct, would appreciate a discussion on the rates so we can agree on a market rate to nego with MLs.

[humsupwang]

I also joined this ML playfield early this year and my first time was a $58 entry but I got pushed to pay the $68 entry.

I went with no expectations as it was a curtain joint and I thought nothing naughty will be done. End up it was a 15 mins massage and then the ML popped me the GQ. I was so beginner that I didn’t even ask for the price and it went from HJ, to roaming with clothes, kissing, roaming without clothes, and the next thing was a FJ.

At the end I paid another $80, which is definitely lower than the typical FJ rate but I guess YMMV. I talked to her quite abit during the 15 massage and the last 10 minutes or so she just rested beside me while lying down.

Till now, I’m still exploring and there’s def hits and misses at different ML joints. Good luck bro!

[sladang]

Originally Posted by timeliness

It really depends I guess. But other bros can feel free to add on or correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy: $50 to $60
Very happy: $80 to $100
Super happy: $120 to $150? (Not very sure about this as I rarely try this tier)

Please don't zap me if my info isn't correct, would appreciate a discussion on the rates so we can agree on a market rate to nego with MLs.

The abv quoted are generally correct & highly acceptable ..

[toukin]

Originally Posted by timeliness

It really depends I guess. But other bros can feel free to add on or correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy: $50 to $60
Very happy: $80 to $100
Super happy: $120 to $150? (Not very sure about this as I rarely try this tier)

Please don't zap me if my info isn't correct, would appreciate a discussion on the rates so we can agree on a market rate to nego with MLs.

Is this inclusive of entry fee? I suppose not right?

[Keima]

Originally Posted by toukin

Is this inclusive of entry fee? I suppose not right?

These are meal options.

Entry fees are separate, as some shops don’t share them with service providers.

Entry fees can go from $50 to $100/hr, but most places that have the standard $55-60 are ok. One shop I go to is $68/hr but the ML gets a share, and her massage is bloody solid.

[Drifter1999]

Originally Posted by toukin

I'm generally fine with happy if there's autoroam. Very happy also can but not a must..

Condo MLs feel less commercial but the land mine hit rate is understandably high.

Ah. Do note that happy packages don't always come with autoroam hor. Depending on the provider, some will require further top ups （can be as high as another $50. In this situation, my advise is just WALK AWAY.

[Fbtak]

Used to chiong MLs quite a bit many years back but went on hiatus. Now starting to slowly come back.

If your prioritization is for a solid massage over extent of services offered, then these joints aren't too hard to find. As one bro mentioned, most of the sponsored places here are a good place to start. A second one would be on social media platforms, especially tiktok for me.

They tend to be what most bros here nowadays call the "cat A" joints. Entry is usually high 60s to 80s an hour. But MLs tend to be younger and aren't too far from what is advertised. Massage is OK or in some cases, actually pretty good. But it's rare to find piano types. Services tend to be up to 'happy' levels only. I am fine with that. What I look out for is roaming options.

My personal experience is that this is largely dependent on the ML themselves as opposed to the shop.

[Fbtak]

Forgot to add. The so called "owo" joints usually are the ones offering very very happy.

But not sure if it's me or my standards that have changed but I find such experiences to be far less memorable than plain happy. MLs tend to be older, the service rushed, but to me the biggest turn off is the facilities itself. When I was younger, parklane and OT were my go to areas for such joints.

No longer. Very much rather have a young pretty ML that is able to make some conversation give me a good massage (and good roaming access!)