How to know if she truly loves you or just wants your money

[RatedX]

Never say never. It's never too late to turn back. Said the chiongster still chionging. Do it on your terms and when you want to.

[WhiteMilk]

Originally Posted by scumofsociety

Yeah I think we have similar mindsets and goals la, I also wanna bonk girls collect girls of diff nationalities, count and finishing in diff positions etc before I become old cannot bonk Liao. Chionging is More of a “been there done that” yolo hobby, collecting trophies. .

Only con about this deal with the devil is: the kc, is satisfies your physical needs only. Most girls are in for the money, nothing personal just good biz. When I get a bad bonk I just tell myself I’m donating overseas and doing a good deed

Chionging can never be truly emotionally fulfilled, that requires a soulmate la. A partner that makes you want to be a better person, purposeful etc. that’s why choose spouse must be clear in what you want lor, not just for sex ah. , sex is just one of many considerations, sex drive incompatibility is still impt la, albeit for a limited period post marriage.

- 120% Agree with this. At one point my life goal was to die happily knowing I bonked 1000 different girls from as many countries as possible in this world. When you have the opportunity to do it, JUST DO IT. I have had LIFELONG regrets of moments when I visited a country and had a chance to bonk there but didn't follow through with it, and I regret all of those until today, especially places where I know it's gonna be a very long time or if ever I am gonna go back there...

- I don't agree with the Soulmate concept. I think it's just a feminist propaganda to get men to go against our primary programming in nature to "bonk as many as possible" and get into monogamy. Even women themselves are not really buying this "Soulmate" stuff. Try telling your wife/gf you lost your job, lost all your wealth, go bankrupt. See what her reaction and next steps. I have seen horror stories where someone gets bankrupt or even get into accident and bedridden, and their wives without a moment's hestitation left them for dead just like that. Scary

- I also disagree about this. At this point, I am already immune to all the "Emotional" stuff. If I want that, I'd just talk to my mom or watch KDrama or something. When it comes to bonking, I just look to relieve myself from my overwhelming urges, almost no different than going to the toilet when you badly need to pee or shit

Talking about Devil, though. There's an interesting superstition that seems to go around about GL. I have heard this from several older men now that I think it's interesting to talk about this.

I was first told abt this when I was like 17-18 and I was with family members and family friend and her husband in their car. Dunno why in the convo suddenly GL is mentioned somewhat, her husband who was driving suddenly looked at me and said "Hey, youngster, don't ever go to GL arh since you are still in school! You will fail school miserably if you go there!"

The way he said it is like a curse. At that time I was already very active in GL and FL scenes, and for one second I thought maybe he saw me in one of the GL houses or something?

I had since heard it from other older men ranging from other family friends or even some taxi drivers that I talked with.

Is this really a thing? or just a prank by older bros to "gatekeep" GL from the youngsters? lol

Originally Posted by RatedX

Never say never. It's never too late to turn back. Said the chiongster still chionging. Do it on your terms and when you want to.

I half agree with this. In the sense that, when I found myself in Europe for some time years ago on exchange program, me being me, I dipped straight into the bonking scenes there.

and months into my time there, it got so bad that the only thing that I would bonk were White gals with blonde hair and preferably blue eyes. Not even the brunette I would pick. and Asian girls and JAV videos were 0% attractive for me. I would bonk blondies and watch only AMWF type of porn on the sides (till today this is the only porn I could watch now besides some types of JAVs)

But as my stint there ended and I had to go back to Asia, slowly that condition changed again. It took several months, but eventually I rediscovered my taste on Asian gals and I started bonking Asian gals again and Asian looking gals (Mongolian, Kazakh, Uzbek these types)

So if I can come back from that, maybe you are right, there's a way to come back from Full Time Bonker like me to fully functional member of society and marry the 4/10 Tan Ah Moois of this world?

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by scumofsociety

Yeah I think we have similar mindsets and goals la, I also wanna bonk girls collect girls of diff nationalities, count and finishing in diff positions etc before I become old cannot bonk Liao. Chionging is More of a “been there done that” yolo hobby, collecting trophies. .

Only con about this deal with the devil is: the kc, is satisfies your physical needs only. Most girls are in for the money, nothing personal just good biz. When I get a bad bonk I just tell myself I’m donating overseas and doing a good deed

Chionging can never be truly emotionally fulfilled, that requires a soulmate la. A partner that makes you want to be a better person, purposeful etc. that’s why choose spouse must be clear in what you want lor, not just for sex ah. , sex is just one of many considerations, sex drive incompatibility is still impt la, albeit for a limited period post marriage.

I agree. I also want to bonk as many time as possible now while I am still able to do it. Life is unpredictable, so we never know.

Yes. If can find a soulmate who is willing to do anything for sex with you, then it is really a blessing liao. Personally, I would say that sexual compatibility is number 1. If this part both side ok, then the rest like character, habits, etc are compatible, then ho say liao.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Penguin23

An FL on a "yellow card" permit can never come back to Singapore to stay long-term under any pass. I think you should keep that in mind, first and foremost.

So that means, even if you give her the huge benefit of the doubt and that her words are real, she probably fell in love while working in the wrong country, and with the wrong man.

I always take the stand that given a choice, no woman will want to work as FL in a GL house. You earn very little and you close off the option of coming back to Singapore ever again under a different work pass. So there must be a certain set of circumstances (or perhaps, ignorance) that made her choose this path. What these circumstances are, you may never know and I think it's best to leave it at that.

If I were in your shoes, I would choose to be kind and listen to what she has to say and comfort her to the best you can (which you seem to be already doing so kudos to you). But you should also be honest and let her know certain facts that are unfortunately set in stone, so that she doesn't harbour any false hopes. For whatever time you can spend with her and it feels genuine and real to you, treasure them. I once fell in love with an ML and it ended badly, but I hold on to the nice memories and as I grow older, I am glad that I had those nice thoughts to hold on to, for old times' sake.

Cheers - yours is a new nick so I have no way of telling if you are some young fella who created this new nick or you're an old guy who probably knows all this already but for some reason chose to post your predicament on sbf

Sorry to dig this out. I just heard from one of the WL who went back that the person at ICA told them that they can come back to Singapore again after 2yrs. They will have to go to Singapore Embassy in Thailand to apply. Heard that they will need a guarantor also.

Can anybody confirm?

[Cusmar7]

Some says 2yrs, some says 3yrs, some even said 5. Oh well, as long they don't get deported and banned from entering again.

[Tiger149]

Originally Posted by bradpitt968

Sorry to dig this out. I just heard from one of the WL who went back that the person at ICA told them that they can come back to Singapore again after 2yrs. They will have to go to Singapore Embassy in Thailand to apply. Heard that they will need a guarantor also.

Can anybody confirm?

Probably some truth in this. Last month I was at Bugis when I saw this Thai girl. She used to work in the $40 a pop legal joint. She went back around 2019 after her 2 yr stint and now she's back as FL for an online stable but stable just advertised on Telegram and not at FL Dome 1. We had a small chat and she told me to look her up. I didn't as she was not my type even from her GL days due to her little bit crossed eyes. And moreover her online services is abit expensive as compared to the prices at Dome 1. As for the guarantor part, I'm not sure if the girl that I mentioned has one.

[Tiger149]

Haizzz, I think most of the girls know how to play with our feelings including yours truly. Not saying that they are manipulative but sorry to say they are more streetwise than us. Most of these girls came from poverty background and are usually reach single mom status by the time they're in their mid 20s. They would do everything for the sake of their families. Generally they are nice as a person but circumstances in life back in LOS made them act this way finding every each single opportunity to gain that extra dollar for their families. It's sad but as chiongsters we need to draw a line between being a Wannabe Carrot Head Hero and being sensible in not getting trapped in their deceit. During my younger days I was also gullible enough to believe that a girl from this industry is willing to have a genuine relationship with me. 555. It was a painful experience but I have since learned my lesson. Part of learning process in life I guess. Then I had a brief relationship with another girl. Once she was in a financial doldrums back in BKK, I told her I would be willing to help her out few hundreds. She kindly rejected my offer and told me to keep the money for my then sick mom who was then hospitalised. Sadly she has already forgotten about me and I believe she's happy now in her life Then I get to know a girl from FL Dome 1. Was her regular back then during her 2 weeks stint here. Told me she's single mom but not having any relationship back home. Her mistake was adding me on Facebook. When I did my due diligence on her, I get to know she was having an open relationship with a Siam Kia single dad. 555. Best of all this guy even accompanied this lady on most of her working trips in Taiwan, HK, Japan. Just imagine the guy sitting at the hotel enjoying his whiskey and knowing that his girl is sucking some men's dicks at another hotel. And sadly this girl is also supporting her useless bum BF who is just a small time fruit juice seller back home. Sometimes I like to come to the GL thread and read the good advices from experienced senior Bros here. It has served me well in life.

[omg888]

Guys who kenna the KC “trap” and feels betrayed and hurt, don’t be too hard on yourself. Move on and don’t keep dwelling on the past. Many of these WLs leverage spiritual rituals to boost their KC abilities. You gotta give their Masters some credits too.

[Tiger149]

Originally Posted by omg888

Guys who kenna the KC “trap” and feels betrayed and hurt, don’t be too hard on yourself. Move on and don’t keep dwelling on the past. Many of these WLs leverage spiritual rituals to boost their KC abilities. You gotta give their Masters some credits too.

Gongtao you mean Senior? Actually I believed that too. One time when I was in Roi Et to meet up with an ex FL Dome 1 girl. She had a body full of Sakyant tattoos. I asked her if she use Gongtao magic on her customers since she always had few BFs from Japan, Arab, Korea sending her money every few months. Can see she quite angry since I brought up a sensitive topic. She jokingly bit my tip of my dick during the BBBJ but can see she was angry. Did just one shot since mood in the room was not good. Told the girl I was tired and gave her some tip and told her go back. I agree with your advice. Need to move on no matter how painful it is. Nowadays my modus operandi is to be single happy and merry. Book a girl to bonk and be mentally strong as not to be KCed by the girl no matter how strong the GFE effect is. There are many good advices from many battle hardened Bros here in this thread. You guys can become qualified counsellors when it comes to the matters of the heart. Appreciate all the good advices here

[Laofuzi8888]

In this play ground don’t talk about love. Just play and move on. Learn to protect your wallet and heart.

[Laofuzi8888]

The trick they used is to make you think that you are the special one. However, behind the scene they have many. Just to make you spend and spend. I think they all learn from the same school before they come here.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by WhiteMilk

This is why with all these complications and shitshow, even from the very first time I bonked in GL back in 2007, I already knew back then even in my teens I just want to spend my whole life just bonking WLs in GL and FLs to fulfill my sex needs and I won't play this game

Then at the very height of the "pandemic" when everything closed, I was shocked and sad to see this forum and saw posts from bros being extremely distraught from the closures that they started talking about "having to find real GFs now..." and "need to just get married"

I don't think I can ever relent like that, the bullshit is just too much. I am just saying, my years in GL, FL scenes, and also scenes overseas have permanently "damaged" me.

In the sense that, let me illustrate this, how can you recover from the following: picture the gals in my signature such as Rong Rong 1606, Jia Yi 2047, Chu Chu 1654a, those exquisite REAL 8/10, 9/10 legit beauties with just $150 not only opened their sexy legs, but also do things to me that I thought only existed in "fictional" porn clips only like licking my ass furiously, letting me cum on their bodies and even pee on their body in the shower, call me "小弟弟" (up to 2015) then put their fingers in my ass and fuck it, french kiss me like no tomorrow non stop, biting me all over my chest and neck giving me dark hickeys I had to struggle to explain away when mom saw those on my neck at home

Then instead of that, now have to resort to average 4/10 "Tan Ah Mooi" who thinks her painfully average ass pussay is 24 carat gold diamond, demanding 5Cs (cash, car, credit card, condominium and country club membership), demanding to be wined and dined, and then demanding u to marry and finance her sitting doing nothing at home for literally your whole life, then always nagging, refusing to even give you dead fish sex.

How can you ever recover from that? You can never go back, at least I can never, would never, could never, even if you point a gun on my head, I will just say "pull the trigger and let's not waste my time and yours"

I don't think I am alone in this situation.

Agree with you.

I feel that sexual compatibility is very important. If this part is compatible, then we look at other aspects.

All this beautiful WLs that can provide so tok kong service with no bullshit. If can get some GFE from them will be bonus.

Me too, have lost count of how many gals I had banged so far. I love to have passionate love making. Thankfully that I can still do it a few times a day now if I have access to. I want to enjoy my life and make it count. At least, when I die, I can die with no regrets.

[Jjly]

Girl in this industry are always about money at first. We need to be careful and no need very emotional

[chinacuntlover]

Interesting thread
Many meaningful insights
- Maslow hierachy : men are hard wired to seek sex for humankind evolution
- Every man want to be Chinese emperor, rich, powerful and unlimted girl supply! But not many can lead that kind of life unless you strike lottery big time or have earning talent like jeff bezo or elon musk.

Back to WL relationship. If continue, must overcome that
- she was a WL with many customers
- he was a chiongster with many ventures

BGR, WL or not, will be based on 等价交换， opportunity cost.
钱不是万能，但没钱万万不能.

Moreover, TS see the WL for what she is now. People do get old. When she become aunty, will TS have the same appetite?

There are exception. Just go watch Pretty Woman. The underlying premise is the guy is farking rich.

[Dignified69]

The problem good sirs lies in our KKJ. It is this KKJ which leads us astray and overrules our big head in the heat of the moment.