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casa2011 07-04-2021 09:28 PM

Advices on living in China(gf should be ban by ica)
 
My relationship isnt as fantastic as most regular guys. First girlfriend at 23, run off with my best friend.Subsequently my girlfriends all run off cause I'm poor. And there goes my path of womanising

After years, i had fallen in love again with a fl in year 2019.. She was caught and deported back to China... I had a long time forgetting her, we kept in contact and she was eventually married.

Now in 2021, i had fallen in love with a fl again. She was caught yesterday and im pretty sure she will be ban from re entry to singapore.

Many of you will think why I am so stupid... to fall in love with a working lady.

It is hard to find someone you like and likes you too. Over 100 girls i encountered, she is the rare one that i cannot let go. Because of the words she said and how good she treat me. (Also because of her perfect Hr glass Big C). We have had our fights, disagreements and patches back every time. Im not a saint, been a womaniser for years, god knows how many women i fuck. We wanted to forget our past and start a family together in sg or china.

Now that im sure she cant enter singapore again, im researching about marriage in china. Anyone has experience on marrying a Chinese girl in china... Is it easy to get jobs? I have a degree in finance, i heard it is very competitive over there and i wont get the salary im earning now, 4k+

larue 08-04-2021 09:14 AM

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In your case, don't. Just don't.

Then again, you seem to love punishment.

fallen11 08-04-2021 12:47 PM

Re: Advices on living in China(gf should be ban by ica)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20568197)
My relationship isnt as fantastic as most regular guys. First girlfriend at 23, run off with my best friend.Subsequently my girlfriends all run off cause I'm poor. And there goes my path of womanising

After years, i had fallen in love again with a fl in year 2019.. She was caught and deported back to China... I had a long time forgetting her, we kept in contact and she was eventually married.

Now in 2021, i had fallen in love with a fl again. She was caught yesterday and im pretty sure she will be ban from re entry to singapore.

Many of you will think why I am so stupid... to fall in love with a working lady.

It is hard to find someone you like and likes you too. Over 100 girls i encountered, she is the rare one that i cannot let go. Because of the words she said and how good she treat me. (Also because of her perfect Hr glass Big C). We have had our fights, disagreements and patches back every time. Im not a saint, been a womaniser for years, god knows how many women i fuck. We wanted to forget our past and start a family together in sg or china.

Now that im sure she cant enter singapore again, im researching about marriage in china. Anyone has experience on marrying a Chinese girl in china... Is it easy to get jobs? I have a degree in finance, i heard it is very competitive over there and i wont get the salary im earning now, 4k+

Just dont.
So many girls in this world, you die die want to fall in love with a FL.
broaden your horizons, expand the scope of your girls to find the one you will love.
I know now probably your small head influence your big head. Take some time to cool down and it'll pass. Dont be rash now.

bignehneh 12-04-2021 08:52 AM

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Why degree in finance only earn $4k? Actuallly China is an interesting country. I stay there for more than 10 years. Can make a poor super rich and some clowns remains poor. Plenty of opportunities as long as you know how to grab them. Some clowns taobao sellers also make $5-10k (Singapore dollars) a month. In places like Shanghai, there are plenty of elites there earning at crazy amount we wonít never see in our lives. If u really wants to go China, no need to be in a hurry to look for your FL gf.

China is a heaven where you find many single hot chicks. From big bosses assistants, to lawyers, doctors, accountants, entrepreneurs. Seems like many women canít find husband. F so many of them when they are in late 20s to late 30s. Some of them are pressurised to get married and in the end did. Some decided to remain single. These women are not sticky and have the financial muscle to live alone. Offering accommodation, some nice lifestyle to you. No need to go all out to support FL and spend your money. Not sure can also ask me. Happy to share

casa2011 12-04-2021 02:44 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
I do not have the necessary skills for manager position yet, only senior.
My gf has a house and car in china so accommodation not a issue, but she mentioned salary is generally low over there.

Crazy 14 days+ 7 days quarantine at China now. I would be trying out there once the quarantine is lifted.

bignehneh 12-04-2021 08:45 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Which part of China is she in?

casa2011 13-04-2021 02:30 AM

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Pm u bro. Cause dont want to reveal too much on her

garohe 14-04-2021 01:47 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
hey bro, just few words for you if you intend to go China. it's total different world out there.

if you go there with no baggage over here, just go and see the other world, you will learn fast and most probably get rid of your so-called girlfriend in no time

if you go there half-hearted, and hoping to get the best of both worlds, i rather you stay and get another girlfriend. very hard for you to get 20K RMB pay, unless you are super connected and hardworking. most probably you will struggling with 3-5K RMB.

casa2011 14-04-2021 05:23 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
She will be sent back.I will try to appeal for her to come back for marriage.

LooksLikeJesus 14-04-2021 09:15 PM

Re: Advices on living in China(gf should be ban by ica)
 
I need to ask you a few questions, before I say anything.

1)What is your age?

2)Do you own a car?

3)Do you have a criminal record?

4)Are you aware of MGTOW?

5)Do you want children?

6)Did you grow up in a dysfunctional family?

7) Got least 1 close friend?

bignehneh 15-04-2021 05:38 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garohe (Post 20580900)
hey bro, just few words for you if you intend to go China. it's total different world out there.

if you go there with no baggage over here, just go and see the other world, you will learn fast and most probably get rid of your so-called girlfriend in no time

if you go there half-hearted, and hoping to get the best of both worlds, i rather you stay and get another girlfriend. very hard for you to get 20K RMB pay, unless you are super connected and hardworking. most probably you will struggling with 3-5K RMB.

$3-5k rmb? I did a lot of hiring in Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Beijing and Shanghai. Every clown earn rmb10k. Those manager earn rmb30k.

Xgenre 15-04-2021 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20581270)
She will be sent back.I will try to appeal for her to come back for marriage.

May not be a bad thing for her to be sent back. Creates a space between the both of you and allows you to cool down and see things clearer. See if both of you still feel the same for each other over time. Chances are feelings will wane and then there is no need to live in China.

Janee 16-04-2021 11:17 AM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garohe (Post 20580900)
hey bro, just few words for you if you intend to go China. it's total different world out there.

if you go there with no baggage over here, just go and see the other world, you will learn fast and most probably get rid of your so-called girlfriend in no time

if you go there half-hearted, and hoping to get the best of both worlds, i rather you stay and get another girlfriend. very hard for you to get 20K RMB pay, unless you are super connected and hardworking. most probably you will struggling with 3-5K RMB.

how do you mean going over there with no baggage?

learn fast on how to work, what opportunities there are etc?

my sense is that if your mandarin not so strong, you'll just end up in expat networks (if you have some sort of polish, social class)

but that's probably not the best route to success in China..

bignehneh 18-04-2021 07:21 AM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Donít really cheong there first la. If you have a bit of savings, just take a 2-3 months leave then go there live with her for a while. See what kind of environment and what kind of lifestyle she has before you decide. Sometimes things may not work out.

I live with some women in various parts of China. Really depends on whether you r used to that lifestyle or not lo. Some professional women have their own very nice, cosy place. Usually 3 bedroom condominium in very nice location. On and off just spend couple of nights over, cook, drink red wine, talk, fuck. Damn shiok. Even go out with them also quite nice as they do a lot of interesting things. Going to pub to listen to jazz music, drink tea, go massage together etc...Even fuck at their home can fuck anywhere from kitchen to living room, bedroom to balcony to toilet. Sibei song. Haha

Some women are mistresses, some live with their friends. Really donít have that ďfeelĒ of a home. Fuck 1/2 way sugar daddy comes back etc..or housemate come back, really jialat this kind of lifestyle. These ppl also have quite sian and boring lifestyle.

After trying out, can decide to consider whether to give up ur career for all these. Hope it helps

casa2011 18-04-2021 12:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bignehneh (Post 20587465)
Donít really cheong there first la. If you have a bit of savings, just take a 2-3 months leave then go there live with her for a while. See what kind of environment and what kind of lifestyle she has before you decide. Sometimes things may not work out.

I live with some women in various parts of China. Really depends on whether you r used to that lifestyle or not lo. Some professional women have their own very nice, cosy place. Usually 3 bedroom condominium in very nice location. On and off just spend couple of nights over, cook, drink red wine, talk, fuck. Damn shiok. Even go out with them also quite nice as they do a lot of interesting things. Going to pub to listen to jazz music, drink tea, go massage together etc...Even fuck at their home can fuck anywhere from kitchen to living room, bedroom to balcony to toilet. Sibei song. Haha

Some women are mistresses, some live with their friends. Really donít have that ďfeelĒ of a home. Fuck 1/2 way sugar daddy comes back etc..or housemate come back, really jialat this kind of lifestyle. These ppl also have quite sian and boring lifestyle.

After trying out, can decide to consider whether to give up ur career for all these. Hope it helps

Thanks for sharing experience! Yeah, i intend to go over for 1month once the quarantine is lifted or shorten to 7 days.

Her ban is 2-3 years. I will try to appeal for her to come back as well. Ideally she can come back so i dont have to give up my career.

funboi 18-04-2021 01:27 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)

fallen11 18-04-2021 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20587945)
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)

not easy to get china citizenship, even if marry PRC wife there
its rare to find another country thats as open leg as we do

casa2011 19-04-2021 12:10 AM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20587945)
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)


China people come here make $$ cause of our strong currency. China is a good place for retirement in your old age, but not for earning money.

See these prc ml/fl, Come here make 15-20k/month. Can easily retire when they go back. Their salary in most rural place around 1.5k sgd. They work here one month get one year salary in China.


Unless you have lobang or specialise in some areas, not easy to earn rmb even if you have good qualifications. Too competitive with their 1billion population.

iluvbreast 21-04-2021 10:18 AM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20568197)
My relationship isnt as fantastic as most regular guys.....
Now in 2021, i had fallen in love with a fl again. She was caught yesterday and im pretty sure she will be ban from re entry to singapore.

...i wont get the salary im earning now, 4k+

Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20576918)
I do not have the necessary skills for manager position yet, only senior.
My gf has a house and car in china so accommodation not a issue, but she mentioned salary is generally low over there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20588947)
China people come here make $$ cause of our strong currency. China is a good place for retirement in your old age, but not for earning money.

See these prc ml/fl, Come here make 15-20k/month. Can easily retire when they go back. Their salary in most rural place around 1.5k sgd. They work here one month get one year salary in China.

Unless you have lobang or specialise in some areas, not easy to earn rmb even if you have good qualifications. Too competitive with their 1billion population.

I think you don't know China well....even the few Chinese I know don't claim to know China well...出了城就等于出了国...ever heard of this saying?

Your posts are as if the Chinese society largely conforms, nothing can be farther from the truth.

If you go to the first tier cities especially Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Shenzhen, earning SGD 4,000 or RMB 20,000 monthly is not much.

Sure, a junior nurse in Shanghai maybe earning RMB 7,000 monthly but she has additional grey income from patients or suppliers or hospital itself.

The last time I visit Beijing 3 years back I felt poor, the bloody 羊杂面 cost RMB 25 and it was just some small shop that locals visited. RMB 25 is nothing to us, but RMB 25 to a young graduate earning RMB 3,000 monthly is a lot.

Your gf have a house and car (earned by working as FL in Singapore), this is the life style she is used to, meaning you have to maintain that standard. She can come here make do with a room and take public transport, back home, she will live it up.

And please don't compare rural China, sure SDG1,500 maybe the norm, but that is in those poorer villagers. Have you stayed there before? Are you willing to stay under those conditions?

I once visited a very rich village in 晋江 (invited by my friend, no she was not a FL). The village export seaweed both domestically and internationally, my friend was the daughter of one of the biggest exporter. He sent her to Singapore to learn English and gain exposure, so they can trade internationally.

During my trip she drove me around in her 7 series, crashed and her father don't even bother to repair (not safe he said), just call the dealer to send down another one the next day.

Are you sure your concepts of China is correct or for that matter your understanding of your gf's lifestyle is correct?

casa2011 21-04-2021 11:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20593449)
I think you don't know China well....even the few Chinese I know don't claim to know China well...出了城就等于出了国...ever heard of this saying?

Your posts are as if the Chinese society largely conforms, nothing can be farther from the truth.

If you go to the first tier cities especially Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Shenzhen, earning SGD 4,000 or RMB 20,000 monthly is not much.

Sure, a junior nurse in Shanghai maybe earning RMB 7,000 monthly but she has additional grey income from patients or suppliers or hospital itself.

The last time I visit Beijing 3 years back I felt poor, the bloody 羊杂面 cost RMB 25 and it was just some small shop that locals visited. RMB 25 is nothing to us, but RMB 25 to a young graduate earning RMB 3,000 monthly is a lot.

Your gf have a house and car (earned by working as FL in Singapore), this is the life style she is used to, meaning you have to maintain that standard. She can come here make do with a room and take public transport, back home, she will live it up.

And please don't compare rural China, sure SDG1,500 maybe the norm, but that is in those poorer villagers. Have you stayed there before? Are you willing to stay under those conditions?

I once visited a very rich village in 晋江 (invited by my friend, no she was not a FL). The village export seaweed both domestically and internationally, my friend was the daughter of one of the biggest exporter. He sent her to Singapore to learn English and gain exposure, so they can trade internationally.

During my trip she drove me around in her 7 series, crashed and her father don't even bother to repair (not safe he said), just call the dealer to send down another one the next day.

Are you sure your concepts of China is correct or for that matter your understanding of your gf's lifestyle is correct?

Thanks for sharing your experience.
Her home town,is not the big cities, average income there is around 1.5k-2k. Have to look around to find any suitable jobs for me. Living there now is not ideal, but i dont mind retiring over there in another 10-15 years.

I don't want us to live poorly over there now. But she canít enter Singapore for about 1-3 years., i may have to consider living there for short term until the ban is lifted. Living conditions there isn't an issue, its family that is keeping me in Singapore.

casa2011 21-04-2021 11:42 AM

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I have played over 100+ girls... yet still not immune :D probably just reach a high level.

Even for now... I am prepared to let things go if things do not turn out well in the next 1-3 years. (The way i expect)

Pros of finding a fl/ml as wife
-You get sex everyday and every night. If you can take it...
Just this week, i been doing it every night and morning for a week CIP.

Have to try so hard to seduce my ex malaysian/local gf for sex...

Well, her body and face is acceptable to me lah, treats me well therefore i have the stomach..

I strongly do not advise finding a fl/ml as your wife if you do not have the stomach. You will burn $$ and be mentally exhausted

Prince Devitt 21-04-2021 12:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20593613)
I have played over 100+ girls... yet still not immune :D probably just reach a high level.



I strongly do not advise finding a fl/ml as your wife if you do not have the stomach. You will burn $$ and be mentally exhausted

Prince Devitt +51

Apollo 21-04-2021 02:31 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20587945)
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)

bro easy say, but in reality that maybe the most difficulty

iluvbreast 21-04-2021 04:11 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20593588)
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Her home town,is not the big cities, average income there is around 1.5k-2k... but i dont mind retiring over there in another 10-15 years.

I don't want us to live poorly over there now. But she canít enter Singapore for about 1-3 years.,...

Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20593613)
I have played over 100+ girls... yet still not immune :D probably just reach a high level.

Even for now... I am prepared to let things go if things do not turn out well in the next 1-3 years. (The way i expect)

Pros of finding a fl/ml as wife
-You get sex everyday and every night. If you can take it...
Just this week, i been doing it every night and morning for a week CIP.

Well, her body and face is acceptable to me lah, treats me well therefore i have the stomach..

I strongly do not advise finding a fl/ml as your wife if you do not have the stomach. You will burn $$ and be mentally exhausted

Well you yourself says she don't live in a 1st tier city, and the average income in her hometown is SGD 1.5-2k (7.5-10k RMB)...so then the question is assuming you are top tier in her hometown making 10k RMB, will it be enough for you both?
Or she needs to work, and for that matter is she willing to take on those low paying jobs?
You mentioned retirement, yes, that is retirement but you are not exactly doing that now right?

So for the next 1-3 years, she goes back, how will she survive? Will you be supporting her or she is planning to get a job? You mentioned pros of getting a FL for wife, but what about these cons?

casa2011 21-04-2021 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20594091)
Well you yourself says she don't live in a 1st tier city, and the average income in her hometown is SGD 1.5-2k (7.5-10k RMB)...so then the question is assuming you are top tier in her hometown making 10k RMB, will it be enough for you both?
Or she needs to work, and for that matter is she willing to take on those low paying jobs?
You mentioned retirement, yes, that is retirement but you are not exactly doing that now right?

So for the next 1-3 years, she goes back, how will she survive? Will you be supporting her or she is planning to get a job? You mentioned pros of getting a FL for wife, but what about these cons?

We are talking about marriage in China and raising a kid.You are right bro, both of us have to work, probably get 1-2k sgd monthly if we chose to stay there.(that is what she wants)

I do not have the heart to leave my family over at Singapore therefore probably marry her and let live her there while i send money to her, then i apply for her to come back. I’m spending 1-2k monthly on women anyway, probably i can cut down to 500monthly and give her the rest or half. (she allow me to find women in her absence, just cannot raw or kiss)

That is why i decide to try out in China for a month once quarantine ease up. And then, I have to decide whether we stay there or i let her stay there.

Actually her offence is not kena caught in the act for sexual service.(I wont go through the exact details) It is having a S pass but not going to work. The ICA officer says ban is 1-3 years. She dont mind my plan to get married in China then i apply for her to try return to Singapore.

Ideally, the best is for us to work in Singapore. We will earn more money and living condition here is better.
Then every month send money back to her family and visit them once or twice a year.

Penguin23 21-04-2021 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20594133)
We are talking about marriage in China and raising a kid.You are right bro, both of us have to work, probably get 1-2k sgd monthly if we chose to stay there.(that is what she wants)

I do not have the heart to leave my family over at Singapore therefore probably marry her and let live her there while i send money to her, then i apply for her to come back. Iím spending 1-2k monthly on women anyway, probably i can cut down to 500monthly and give her the rest or half. (she allow me to find women in her absence, just cannot raw or kiss)

That is why i decide to try out in China for a month once quarantine ease up. And then, I have to decide whether we stay there or i let her stay there.

You probably need to inject yourself with a Chinese-made vaccine before they allow you in. So that's an extra consideration for you in the months ahead.

The Chinese government already made it clear that visitors who wish to enter China need to be injected with a Chinese vaccine.

iluvbreast 21-04-2021 05:41 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20594133)
We are talking about marriage in China and raising a kid.You are right bro, both of us have to work, probably get 1-2k sgd monthly if we chose to stay there.(that is what she wants)

I do not have the heart to leave my family over at Singapore therefore probably marry her and let live her there while i send money to her, ...
Actually her offence is not kena caught in the act for sexual service.(I wont go through the exact details) It is having a S pass but not going to work. The ICA officer says ban is 1-3 years. She dont mind my plan to get married in China then i apply for her to try return to Singapore...

Well, I wish you all the best in your relationship with your gf...just 1 piece of advice though, if she was ban as a result of having a work pass but not going to work, her ban actually comes from MOM...I am speculating (with experience), usually not so straight forward that the ban will be lifted after 1-3 years.

fablet 21-04-2021 06:25 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20593449)
I think you don't know China well....even the few Chinese I know don't claim to know China well...出了城就等于出了国...ever heard of this saying?

Your posts are as if the Chinese society largely conforms, nothing can be farther from the truth.

If you go to the first tier cities especially Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Shenzhen, earning SGD 4,000 or RMB 20,000 monthly is not much.

Sure, a junior nurse in Shanghai maybe earning RMB 7,000 monthly but she has additional grey income from patients or suppliers or hospital itself.

The last time I visit Beijing 3 years back I felt poor, the bloody 羊杂面 cost RMB 25 and it was just some small shop that locals visited. RMB 25 is nothing to us, but RMB 25 to a young graduate earning RMB 3,000 monthly is a lot.

Your gf have a house and car (earned by working as FL in Singapore), this is the life style she is used to, meaning you have to maintain that standard. She can come here make do with a room and take public transport, back home, she will live it up.

And please don't compare rural China, sure SDG1,500 maybe the norm, but that is in those poorer villagers. Have you stayed there before? Are you willing to stay under those conditions?

I once visited a very rich village in 晋江 (invited by my friend, no she was not a FL). The village export seaweed both domestically and internationally, my friend was the daughter of one of the biggest exporter. He sent her to Singapore to learn English and gain exposure, so they can trade internationally.

During my trip she drove me around in her 7 series, crashed and her father don't even bother to repair (not safe he said), just call the dealer to send down another one the next day.

Are you sure your concepts of China is correct or for that matter your understanding of your gf's lifestyle is correct?

Very good share bro

casa2011 21-04-2021 08:13 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20594231)
Well, I wish you all the best in your relationship with your gf...just 1 piece of advice though, if she was ban as a result of having a work pass but not going to work, her ban actually comes from MOM...I am speculating (with experience), usually not so straight forward that the ban will be lifted after 1-3 years.

Thanks bro! I have read threads, some ban are 5 years and up. I will try to bring her in with a China marriage certificate. Hopefully ICA give chance

EtherC 21-04-2021 10:24 PM

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TS If there is will, there is a way!

If you believe strongly in your relationship, donít let naysayers get in the way.
As a grown ass man , no need to talk so much. Just do it and keep us updated.

Best of luck! Perhaps you might just be the lucky outlier!

Sometimes its really a situation of 置死地而后生.


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