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funboi 18-04-2021 01:27 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)

fallen11 18-04-2021 05:25 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
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Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20587945)
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)

not easy to get china citizenship, even if marry PRC wife there
its rare to find another country thats as open leg as we do

casa2011 19-04-2021 12:10 AM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
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Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20587945)
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)


China people come here make $$ cause of our strong currency. China is a good place for retirement in your old age, but not for earning money.

See these prc ml/fl, Come here make 15-20k/month. Can easily retire when they go back. Their salary in most rural place around 1.5k sgd. They work here one month get one year salary in China.


Unless you have lobang or specialise in some areas, not easy to earn rmb even if you have good qualifications. Too competitive with their 1billion population.

iluvbreast 21-04-2021 10:18 AM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
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Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20568197)
My relationship isnt as fantastic as most regular guys.....
Now in 2021, i had fallen in love with a fl again. She was caught yesterday and im pretty sure she will be ban from re entry to singapore.

...i wont get the salary im earning now, 4k+

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Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20576918)
I do not have the necessary skills for manager position yet, only senior.
My gf has a house and car in china so accommodation not a issue, but she mentioned salary is generally low over there...

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Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20588947)
China people come here make $$ cause of our strong currency. China is a good place for retirement in your old age, but not for earning money.

See these prc ml/fl, Come here make 15-20k/month. Can easily retire when they go back. Their salary in most rural place around 1.5k sgd. They work here one month get one year salary in China.

Unless you have lobang or specialise in some areas, not easy to earn rmb even if you have good qualifications. Too competitive with their 1billion population.

I think you don't know China well....even the few Chinese I know don't claim to know China well...出了城就等于出了国...ever heard of this saying?

Your posts are as if the Chinese society largely conforms, nothing can be farther from the truth.

If you go to the first tier cities especially Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Shenzhen, earning SGD 4,000 or RMB 20,000 monthly is not much.

Sure, a junior nurse in Shanghai maybe earning RMB 7,000 monthly but she has additional grey income from patients or suppliers or hospital itself.

The last time I visit Beijing 3 years back I felt poor, the bloody 羊杂面 cost RMB 25 and it was just some small shop that locals visited. RMB 25 is nothing to us, but RMB 25 to a young graduate earning RMB 3,000 monthly is a lot.

Your gf have a house and car (earned by working as FL in Singapore), this is the life style she is used to, meaning you have to maintain that standard. She can come here make do with a room and take public transport, back home, she will live it up.

And please don't compare rural China, sure SDG1,500 maybe the norm, but that is in those poorer villagers. Have you stayed there before? Are you willing to stay under those conditions?

I once visited a very rich village in 晋江 (invited by my friend, no she was not a FL). The village export seaweed both domestically and internationally, my friend was the daughter of one of the biggest exporter. He sent her to Singapore to learn English and gain exposure, so they can trade internationally.

During my trip she drove me around in her 7 series, crashed and her father don't even bother to repair (not safe he said), just call the dealer to send down another one the next day.

Are you sure your concepts of China is correct or for that matter your understanding of your gf's lifestyle is correct?

casa2011 21-04-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20593449)
I think you don't know China well....even the few Chinese I know don't claim to know China well...出了城就等于出了国...ever heard of this saying?

Your posts are as if the Chinese society largely conforms, nothing can be farther from the truth.

If you go to the first tier cities especially Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Shenzhen, earning SGD 4,000 or RMB 20,000 monthly is not much.

Sure, a junior nurse in Shanghai maybe earning RMB 7,000 monthly but she has additional grey income from patients or suppliers or hospital itself.

The last time I visit Beijing 3 years back I felt poor, the bloody 羊杂面 cost RMB 25 and it was just some small shop that locals visited. RMB 25 is nothing to us, but RMB 25 to a young graduate earning RMB 3,000 monthly is a lot.

Your gf have a house and car (earned by working as FL in Singapore), this is the life style she is used to, meaning you have to maintain that standard. She can come here make do with a room and take public transport, back home, she will live it up.

And please don't compare rural China, sure SDG1,500 maybe the norm, but that is in those poorer villagers. Have you stayed there before? Are you willing to stay under those conditions?

I once visited a very rich village in 晋江 (invited by my friend, no she was not a FL). The village export seaweed both domestically and internationally, my friend was the daughter of one of the biggest exporter. He sent her to Singapore to learn English and gain exposure, so they can trade internationally.

During my trip she drove me around in her 7 series, crashed and her father don't even bother to repair (not safe he said), just call the dealer to send down another one the next day.

Are you sure your concepts of China is correct or for that matter your understanding of your gf's lifestyle is correct?

Thanks for sharing your experience.
Her home town,is not the big cities, average income there is around 1.5k-2k. Have to look around to find any suitable jobs for me. Living there now is not ideal, but i dont mind retiring over there in another 10-15 years.

I don't want us to live poorly over there now. But she canít enter Singapore for about 1-3 years., i may have to consider living there for short term until the ban is lifted. Living conditions there isn't an issue, its family that is keeping me in Singapore.

casa2011 21-04-2021 11:42 AM

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I have played over 100+ girls... yet still not immune :D probably just reach a high level.

Even for now... I am prepared to let things go if things do not turn out well in the next 1-3 years. (The way i expect)

Pros of finding a fl/ml as wife
-You get sex everyday and every night. If you can take it...
Just this week, i been doing it every night and morning for a week CIP.

Have to try so hard to seduce my ex malaysian/local gf for sex...

Well, her body and face is acceptable to me lah, treats me well therefore i have the stomach..

I strongly do not advise finding a fl/ml as your wife if you do not have the stomach. You will burn $$ and be mentally exhausted

Prince Devitt 21-04-2021 12:21 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
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Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20593613)
I have played over 100+ girls... yet still not immune :D probably just reach a high level.



I strongly do not advise finding a fl/ml as your wife if you do not have the stomach. You will burn $$ and be mentally exhausted

Prince Devitt +51

Apollo 21-04-2021 02:31 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20587945)
might as well give up sg citizenship and apply China citizenship. :)

bro easy say, but in reality that maybe the most difficulty

iluvbreast 21-04-2021 04:11 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
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Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20593588)
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Her home town,is not the big cities, average income there is around 1.5k-2k... but i dont mind retiring over there in another 10-15 years.

I don't want us to live poorly over there now. But she canít enter Singapore for about 1-3 years.,...

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Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20593613)
I have played over 100+ girls... yet still not immune :D probably just reach a high level.

Even for now... I am prepared to let things go if things do not turn out well in the next 1-3 years. (The way i expect)

Pros of finding a fl/ml as wife
-You get sex everyday and every night. If you can take it...
Just this week, i been doing it every night and morning for a week CIP.

Well, her body and face is acceptable to me lah, treats me well therefore i have the stomach..

I strongly do not advise finding a fl/ml as your wife if you do not have the stomach. You will burn $$ and be mentally exhausted

Well you yourself says she don't live in a 1st tier city, and the average income in her hometown is SGD 1.5-2k (7.5-10k RMB)...so then the question is assuming you are top tier in her hometown making 10k RMB, will it be enough for you both?
Or she needs to work, and for that matter is she willing to take on those low paying jobs?
You mentioned retirement, yes, that is retirement but you are not exactly doing that now right?

So for the next 1-3 years, she goes back, how will she survive? Will you be supporting her or she is planning to get a job? You mentioned pros of getting a FL for wife, but what about these cons?

casa2011 21-04-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20594091)
Well you yourself says she don't live in a 1st tier city, and the average income in her hometown is SGD 1.5-2k (7.5-10k RMB)...so then the question is assuming you are top tier in her hometown making 10k RMB, will it be enough for you both?
Or she needs to work, and for that matter is she willing to take on those low paying jobs?
You mentioned retirement, yes, that is retirement but you are not exactly doing that now right?

So for the next 1-3 years, she goes back, how will she survive? Will you be supporting her or she is planning to get a job? You mentioned pros of getting a FL for wife, but what about these cons?

We are talking about marriage in China and raising a kid.You are right bro, both of us have to work, probably get 1-2k sgd monthly if we chose to stay there.(that is what she wants)

I do not have the heart to leave my family over at Singapore therefore probably marry her and let live her there while i send money to her, then i apply for her to come back. I’m spending 1-2k monthly on women anyway, probably i can cut down to 500monthly and give her the rest or half. (she allow me to find women in her absence, just cannot raw or kiss)

That is why i decide to try out in China for a month once quarantine ease up. And then, I have to decide whether we stay there or i let her stay there.

Actually her offence is not kena caught in the act for sexual service.(I wont go through the exact details) It is having a S pass but not going to work. The ICA officer says ban is 1-3 years. She dont mind my plan to get married in China then i apply for her to try return to Singapore.

Ideally, the best is for us to work in Singapore. We will earn more money and living condition here is better.
Then every month send money back to her family and visit them once or twice a year.

Penguin23 21-04-2021 04:43 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20594133)
We are talking about marriage in China and raising a kid.You are right bro, both of us have to work, probably get 1-2k sgd monthly if we chose to stay there.(that is what she wants)

I do not have the heart to leave my family over at Singapore therefore probably marry her and let live her there while i send money to her, then i apply for her to come back. Iím spending 1-2k monthly on women anyway, probably i can cut down to 500monthly and give her the rest or half. (she allow me to find women in her absence, just cannot raw or kiss)

That is why i decide to try out in China for a month once quarantine ease up. And then, I have to decide whether we stay there or i let her stay there.

You probably need to inject yourself with a Chinese-made vaccine before they allow you in. So that's an extra consideration for you in the months ahead.

The Chinese government already made it clear that visitors who wish to enter China need to be injected with a Chinese vaccine.

iluvbreast 21-04-2021 05:41 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casa2011 (Post 20594133)
We are talking about marriage in China and raising a kid.You are right bro, both of us have to work, probably get 1-2k sgd monthly if we chose to stay there.(that is what she wants)

I do not have the heart to leave my family over at Singapore therefore probably marry her and let live her there while i send money to her, ...
Actually her offence is not kena caught in the act for sexual service.(I wont go through the exact details) It is having a S pass but not going to work. The ICA officer says ban is 1-3 years. She dont mind my plan to get married in China then i apply for her to try return to Singapore...

Well, I wish you all the best in your relationship with your gf...just 1 piece of advice though, if she was ban as a result of having a work pass but not going to work, her ban actually comes from MOM...I am speculating (with experience), usually not so straight forward that the ban will be lifted after 1-3 years.

fablet 21-04-2021 06:25 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20593449)
I think you don't know China well....even the few Chinese I know don't claim to know China well...出了城就等于出了国...ever heard of this saying?

Your posts are as if the Chinese society largely conforms, nothing can be farther from the truth.

If you go to the first tier cities especially Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Shenzhen, earning SGD 4,000 or RMB 20,000 monthly is not much.

Sure, a junior nurse in Shanghai maybe earning RMB 7,000 monthly but she has additional grey income from patients or suppliers or hospital itself.

The last time I visit Beijing 3 years back I felt poor, the bloody 羊杂面 cost RMB 25 and it was just some small shop that locals visited. RMB 25 is nothing to us, but RMB 25 to a young graduate earning RMB 3,000 monthly is a lot.

Your gf have a house and car (earned by working as FL in Singapore), this is the life style she is used to, meaning you have to maintain that standard. She can come here make do with a room and take public transport, back home, she will live it up.

And please don't compare rural China, sure SDG1,500 maybe the norm, but that is in those poorer villagers. Have you stayed there before? Are you willing to stay under those conditions?

I once visited a very rich village in 晋江 (invited by my friend, no she was not a FL). The village export seaweed both domestically and internationally, my friend was the daughter of one of the biggest exporter. He sent her to Singapore to learn English and gain exposure, so they can trade internationally.

During my trip she drove me around in her 7 series, crashed and her father don't even bother to repair (not safe he said), just call the dealer to send down another one the next day.

Are you sure your concepts of China is correct or for that matter your understanding of your gf's lifestyle is correct?

Very good share bro

casa2011 21-04-2021 08:13 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvbreast (Post 20594231)
Well, I wish you all the best in your relationship with your gf...just 1 piece of advice though, if she was ban as a result of having a work pass but not going to work, her ban actually comes from MOM...I am speculating (with experience), usually not so straight forward that the ban will be lifted after 1-3 years.

Thanks bro! I have read threads, some ban are 5 years and up. I will try to bring her in with a China marriage certificate. Hopefully ICA give chance

EtherC 21-04-2021 10:24 PM

Re: Advices on living in China
 
TS If there is will, there is a way!

If you believe strongly in your relationship, donít let naysayers get in the way.
As a grown ass man , no need to talk so much. Just do it and keep us updated.

Best of luck! Perhaps you might just be the lucky outlier!

Sometimes its really a situation of 置死地而后生.


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